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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;I&#8217;m Sorry, Your Personality is in Another Princess.&#8221;</title>
	<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cameron Sorden</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2813</link>
		<author>Cameron Sorden</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Good article, but I have to disagree on you with Marle. While she &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a strong-willed character with some personality, as well as an extremely handy character to have around, she also manages to drag Crono into all kinds of terrible situations that he then has to extract her from (My fiancee hated Marle with a burning passion her first time through Chrono Trigger, and really resented that she had to use her so much).

The whole mess starts with her demanding that he lead her around the fair and entertain her, and then the first thing she does is get sucked back in time. Crono and Lucca have to risk their necks getting her back because she messed up history, and then throughout the rest of the game she's assigning Crono moral imperatives and demanding that he do this or do that. ("Crono, we HAVE to help these people!")

Although, I suppose that her actions that started all of this eventually led to the party saving the world, so I guess it's a wash. Still, five crowns seems like a little much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, but I have to disagree on you with Marle. While she <em>is</em> a strong-willed character with some personality, as well as an extremely handy character to have around, she also manages to drag Crono into all kinds of terrible situations that he then has to extract her from (My fiancee hated Marle with a burning passion her first time through Chrono Trigger, and really resented that she had to use her so much).</p>
<p>The whole mess starts with her demanding that he lead her around the fair and entertain her, and then the first thing she does is get sucked back in time. Crono and Lucca have to risk their necks getting her back because she messed up history, and then throughout the rest of the game she&#8217;s assigning Crono moral imperatives and demanding that he do this or do that. (&#8221;Crono, we HAVE to help these people!&#8221;)</p>
<p>Although, I suppose that her actions that started all of this eventually led to the party saving the world, so I guess it&#8217;s a wash. Still, five crowns seems like a little much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2814</link>
		<author>Beth</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm so disappointed there wasn't a review of Princess Zelda included here! If lame old Princess Peach gets a nod, then so should theprincess from the other of Nintendo's most iconic games. Admittedly, in the NES and SNES games she was the capture fodder wet rag, but then she made a stunning turnaround in the Ocarina of Time where she appeared as Sheik. In Windwaker, I believe she was the captain of the ship. Ladies, this is a princess who's been both a ninja AND a pirate! How is that anything less than awesome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so disappointed there wasn&#8217;t a review of Princess Zelda included here! If lame old Princess Peach gets a nod, then so should theprincess from the other of Nintendo&#8217;s most iconic games. Admittedly, in the NES and SNES games she was the capture fodder wet rag, but then she made a stunning turnaround in the Ocarina of Time where she appeared as Sheik. In Windwaker, I believe she was the captain of the ship. Ladies, this is a princess who&#8217;s been both a ninja AND a pirate! How is that anything less than awesome?</p>
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		<title>By: Alison E</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2815</link>
		<author>Alison E</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think with Dagger - and probably with all characters that have similarties in their stories - the first princess you see cutting her hair and shunning princessdom is your favorite.

Mine is Cecilia Adelhyde from Wild Arms, because I saw her before FF9, and also because despite her family, identity, and kingdom all being destroyed in one day, she did not have an irritating emosad mute phase wherein her inability to concentrate got me killed nine thousand times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think with Dagger - and probably with all characters that have similarties in their stories - the first princess you see cutting her hair and shunning princessdom is your favorite.</p>
<p>Mine is Cecilia Adelhyde from Wild Arms, because I saw her before FF9, and also because despite her family, identity, and kingdom all being destroyed in one day, she did not have an irritating emosad mute phase wherein her inability to concentrate got me killed nine thousand times.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Twieg</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2816</link>
		<author>Peter Twieg</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm surprised that Ashe didn't get a mention here. Not only is she a princess - an independent one, like Garnet - but she's one who doesn't star as the female lead just to be the obligate romantic interest of the male lead. I'm probably the only one who was rather shocked that there were no real hints of romantic tension between Vaan and Ashe, and that she really loved her ex-husband. Much of the game was still dedicated to protecting her and escorting her around, but... that's pretty much inevitable with princesses, they're kinda important.

I suppose FFV was similar, featuring not one but three princesses in leading roles who never get involved with the main character, but FFV had little character development compared to today's RPGs.

Zelda is also an interesting example of a princess. She usually needs to be rescued at some point, but for the most part she doesn't come off as helpless or dependent on Link (and when it does, it's usually because she tried to do things herself and failed.) Also, the modern Zelda games don't really trump up a romantic relationship anymore, it's more like he's her knight and you can draw the implications of that as you will. And, of course, for whatever reason the franchise is named after her..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised that Ashe didn&#8217;t get a mention here. Not only is she a princess - an independent one, like Garnet - but she&#8217;s one who doesn&#8217;t star as the female lead just to be the obligate romantic interest of the male lead. I&#8217;m probably the only one who was rather shocked that there were no real hints of romantic tension between Vaan and Ashe, and that she really loved her ex-husband. Much of the game was still dedicated to protecting her and escorting her around, but&#8230; that&#8217;s pretty much inevitable with princesses, they&#8217;re kinda important.</p>
<p>I suppose FFV was similar, featuring not one but three princesses in leading roles who never get involved with the main character, but FFV had little character development compared to today&#8217;s RPGs.</p>
<p>Zelda is also an interesting example of a princess. She usually needs to be rescued at some point, but for the most part she doesn&#8217;t come off as helpless or dependent on Link (and when it does, it&#8217;s usually because she tried to do things herself and failed.) Also, the modern Zelda games don&#8217;t really trump up a romantic relationship anymore, it&#8217;s more like he&#8217;s her knight and you can draw the implications of that as you will. And, of course, for whatever reason the franchise is named after her..</p>
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		<title>By: Brittany</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2818</link>
		<author>Brittany</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@ Cameron: I was sort of iffy on what grade to award Marle. I felt that she stood for many of the same principles as Gwendolyn, and that both were equally important in my eyes, so they deserved the same grade. A lot of my friends hate Marle as well, but then again we usually don't agree on which characters we like best. :]

@ Alison: I completely forgot about Cecilia! You raise a good point there, too. Quite admirable of her not to stand around crying her eyes out even though she had lost pretty much everything dear to her. 

@ Peter: Initially I wanted to mention Ashe, but honestly, I didn't care too much for FFXII or the story. I'm still not even finished with it, and I'm ashamed to mention that. Haha. You mentioned a few great candidates, and Lenna would have definitely worked as a fine example. I just had so many potential choices and a limited amount of time to fit them all into one article without it seeming like an enormous wall of text that people would shy away from reading or an exhaustive list. I didn't include Zelda, however, because I already had chosen to use Peach as a prime example of what's bad about gaming princesses. I had meant to pick and choose a mix of more popular and leser-known characters. Peach was an extremely known one of course, so I didn't want to make the list bland by adding Zelda as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Cameron: I was sort of iffy on what grade to award Marle. I felt that she stood for many of the same principles as Gwendolyn, and that both were equally important in my eyes, so they deserved the same grade. A lot of my friends hate Marle as well, but then again we usually don&#8217;t agree on which characters we like best. :]</p>
<p>@ Alison: I completely forgot about Cecilia! You raise a good point there, too. Quite admirable of her not to stand around crying her eyes out even though she had lost pretty much everything dear to her. </p>
<p>@ Peter: Initially I wanted to mention Ashe, but honestly, I didn&#8217;t care too much for FFXII or the story. I&#8217;m still not even finished with it, and I&#8217;m ashamed to mention that. Haha. You mentioned a few great candidates, and Lenna would have definitely worked as a fine example. I just had so many potential choices and a limited amount of time to fit them all into one article without it seeming like an enormous wall of text that people would shy away from reading or an exhaustive list. I didn&#8217;t include Zelda, however, because I already had chosen to use Peach as a prime example of what&#8217;s bad about gaming princesses. I had meant to pick and choose a mix of more popular and leser-known characters. Peach was an extremely known one of course, so I didn&#8217;t want to make the list bland by adding Zelda as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittany</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2819</link>
		<author>Brittany</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2819</guid>
					<description>@ Beth: I'm sorry, I didn't see your comment until I posted mine. While Zelda is pretty amazing, I didn't choose her as well as Peach because I didn't want to drag my list down into the mud by using only mega-popular princesses. I wanted to keep them spread out all over the board. :]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Beth: I&#8217;m sorry, I didn&#8217;t see your comment until I posted mine. While Zelda is pretty amazing, I didn&#8217;t choose her as well as Peach because I didn&#8217;t want to drag my list down into the mud by using only mega-popular princesses. I wanted to keep them spread out all over the board. :]</p>
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		<title>By: Monique</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2825</link>
		<author>Monique</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 00:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>/me sucks at approving in time and made Britt look bad

ANYWAY, love some of the princess you have here. I'm busy but I managed to read it all because it was enjoyable and fun. I'm trying to think of anything princesses you missed, but I can't think of any (I hate Zelda so I'm glad you didn't really rave about her anyway!). Speaking of Zelda, princess Ruto sucked. A lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/me sucks at approving in time and made Britt look bad</p>
<p>ANYWAY, love some of the princess you have here. I&#8217;m busy but I managed to read it all because it was enjoyable and fun. I&#8217;m trying to think of anything princesses you missed, but I can&#8217;t think of any (I hate Zelda so I&#8217;m glad you didn&#8217;t really rave about her anyway!). Speaking of Zelda, princess Ruto sucked. A lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Twieg</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2830</link>
		<author>Peter Twieg</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 03:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ruto was awesome because you got to throw her into walls and she made a funny noise.

I don't think that Zelda is as bad an example as Peach, though, really, in terms of being a cliche brainless damsel-in-distress. I think the divergence in evolution of the two characters could merit a post in itself, really. :P But I suppose it largely reflects the fact that the Zelda verse has "grown up" and Mario's has not..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruto was awesome because you got to throw her into walls and she made a funny noise.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that Zelda is as bad an example as Peach, though, really, in terms of being a cliche brainless damsel-in-distress. I think the divergence in evolution of the two characters could merit a post in itself, really. <img src='http://girlsdontgame.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> But I suppose it largely reflects the fact that the Zelda verse has &#8220;grown up&#8221; and Mario&#8217;s has not..</p>
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		<title>By: Demosthenes</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2836</link>
		<author>Demosthenes</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 04:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't know, Peach is pretty freaking bad-ass in Super Mario Bros 2. She throws beats AND she flies, what more could you want?

Zelda is pretty useless, not because she is weak, but because she never fucking helps you at all. She is supposed to be some powerful magic user WTF! And when she assists you as Sheik, she is a Ninja! She is a Ninla/Mage COME ON. If you know so much about everything, why don't you follow Link into the freaking temple and help him? That always bothered me about Zelda. Link gets a pretty raw deal if you ask me.

At least Ruto is useful. No one can hold a button down like she can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, Peach is pretty freaking bad-ass in Super Mario Bros 2. She throws beats AND she flies, what more could you want?</p>
<p>Zelda is pretty useless, not because she is weak, but because she never fucking helps you at all. She is supposed to be some powerful magic user WTF! And when she assists you as Sheik, she is a Ninja! She is a Ninla/Mage COME ON. If you know so much about everything, why don&#8217;t you follow Link into the freaking temple and help him? That always bothered me about Zelda. Link gets a pretty raw deal if you ask me.</p>
<p>At least Ruto is useful. No one can hold a button down like she can.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison E</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2943</link>
		<author>Alison E</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I honestly felt really bad for Garnet as a character, because I understood what they were doing with the mute phase, trying to convey how traumatized she was by losing so much of herself, or what she thought was herself, all in one fell swoop, but I think it was the wrong choice for her character. She strikes me as the kind of girl who, even when deeply upset, would come through for her friends. So playstyle-wise, I think it would have been smarter to make her spells do half-damage, even quarter damage, rather than randomly just not happening at all. But, I also think I just got the shaft on the randomizer, because I've had people tell me they didn't get the "can't concentrate" nearly as often as I did. 

I think you made the right decision not including Zelda. I mean, I'm a huge fan of the series, but it's really difficult to pin "Zelda" down because she's so inconsistent. In the first two games, she's useless or asleep, in the second one she's pretty useless again, in the N64 games she's got identity issues and/or is not even there, and even in Wind Waker for some unfathomable reason it's all, "You were totally kicking ass and helping out as a pirate, but now that we've revealed you're Zelda JUST SIT HERE IN YOUR PRETTY DRESS AND WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE WORK." And she was cool with that. WAIT, WHAT? Of all the Zeldas, I really expected Tetra to get up ins and be like, "Screw that, I'm going with you." And yet it did not occur. SO DISAPPOINTED. So anyway, too many incarnations, and Peach is much more consistent with what you were trying to convey. Not that you need my cheerleading. :) 

Anyway, GREAT article, since I didn't say that before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly felt really bad for Garnet as a character, because I understood what they were doing with the mute phase, trying to convey how traumatized she was by losing so much of herself, or what she thought was herself, all in one fell swoop, but I think it was the wrong choice for her character. She strikes me as the kind of girl who, even when deeply upset, would come through for her friends. So playstyle-wise, I think it would have been smarter to make her spells do half-damage, even quarter damage, rather than randomly just not happening at all. But, I also think I just got the shaft on the randomizer, because I&#8217;ve had people tell me they didn&#8217;t get the &#8220;can&#8217;t concentrate&#8221; nearly as often as I did. </p>
<p>I think you made the right decision not including Zelda. I mean, I&#8217;m a huge fan of the series, but it&#8217;s really difficult to pin &#8220;Zelda&#8221; down because she&#8217;s so inconsistent. In the first two games, she&#8217;s useless or asleep, in the second one she&#8217;s pretty useless again, in the N64 games she&#8217;s got identity issues and/or is not even there, and even in Wind Waker for some unfathomable reason it&#8217;s all, &#8220;You were totally kicking ass and helping out as a pirate, but now that we&#8217;ve revealed you&#8217;re Zelda JUST SIT HERE IN YOUR PRETTY DRESS AND WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE WORK.&#8221; And she was cool with that. WAIT, WHAT? Of all the Zeldas, I really expected Tetra to get up ins and be like, &#8220;Screw that, I&#8217;m going with you.&#8221; And yet it did not occur. SO DISAPPOINTED. So anyway, too many incarnations, and Peach is much more consistent with what you were trying to convey. Not that you need my cheerleading. <img src='http://girlsdontgame.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, GREAT article, since I didn&#8217;t say that before.</p>
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		<title>By: RiotMonster</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-2951</link>
		<author>RiotMonster</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I loved this article. Really cute.. and Beth was right.. a pirate AND a ninja.. Zelda is bad ass </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this article. Really cute.. and Beth was right.. a pirate AND a ninja.. Zelda is bad ass</p>
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		<title>By: *vlad*</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-3047</link>
		<author>*vlad*</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great article!
 I think Peach got the mark she deserved. Even in Mariokart, I found her incredibly annoying.</description>
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 I think Peach got the mark she deserved. Even in Mariokart, I found her incredibly annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny from Queens of the Pwn Age</title>
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		<author>Kenny from Queens of the Pwn Age</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Zelda does more than just be a pirate and a ninja, she is also the one firing the light arrows most of the time! and seeing as those are Ganon's only real weakness I think you could probably call that helping :P 

Although Peach was badcore in Mario 2! You could do the whole game as her no probs and never even glance at Luigi, Mario or toad! 

of course seeing as I was a young boy at the time I was forbidden to play Peach due to the unwritten rules of young boys... you know? 
If you show an intrest in girls then you must be gay.
:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zelda does more than just be a pirate and a ninja, she is also the one firing the light arrows most of the time! and seeing as those are Ganon&#8217;s only real weakness I think you could probably call that helping <img src='http://girlsdontgame.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Although Peach was badcore in Mario 2! You could do the whole game as her no probs and never even glance at Luigi, Mario or toad! </p>
<p>of course seeing as I was a young boy at the time I was forbidden to play Peach due to the unwritten rules of young boys&#8230; you know?<br />
If you show an intrest in girls then you must be gay.<br />
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		<title>By: Joe Osborn</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/30/im-sorry-your-personality-is-in-another-princess-tee-hee/#comment-3110</link>
		<author>Joe Osborn</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>We mustn't forget that Chrono Trigger's Marle is in the mold of Seiken Densetsu 2's unnamed "girl": rebellious, dissatisfied with castle life, and able to hold her own in a fight.  "Girl" saves your bacon from being cooked in a Goblin stewpot, ventures alone into a deadly forest to find her lover, Dyluck, and only needs rescuing once from a batch of wolves.

The character development wasn't the strongest, but as far as princesses go, I think she characterizes the archetype in a similar way to Marle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We mustn&#8217;t forget that Chrono Trigger&#8217;s Marle is in the mold of Seiken Densetsu 2&#8217;s unnamed &#8220;girl&#8221;: rebellious, dissatisfied with castle life, and able to hold her own in a fight.  &#8220;Girl&#8221; saves your bacon from being cooked in a Goblin stewpot, ventures alone into a deadly forest to find her lover, Dyluck, and only needs rescuing once from a batch of wolves.</p>
<p>The character development wasn&#8217;t the strongest, but as far as princesses go, I think she characterizes the archetype in a similar way to Marle.</p>
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