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	<title>Comments on: Rockstar the Vote</title>
	<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/</link>
	<description>Everyone knows girls don't play video games.</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ephidrina</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2412</link>
		<author>Ephidrina</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 09:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2412</guid>
					<description>The problem with anti-gaming "journalism" can be summed up best with the Mass Effect story on Fox News.  Not only did the party that was trying to make Video Games as a desensitizing of youth not do any research on their part, but when Geoff Keighley asked Cooper Lawrence if she had actually played the game she laughed at him and said of course not as if she was above him.  So not only do anti video gaming "journalists" refuse to actually research their topics but they feel that they are above any who disagree.  Simply put, they have an agenda.  Much like Fox News itself!

As far as getting politicians to view us as a viable demographic...  I'd rather they didn't view us at all and call it a win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with anti-gaming &#8220;journalism&#8221; can be summed up best with the Mass Effect story on Fox News.  Not only did the party that was trying to make Video Games as a desensitizing of youth not do any research on their part, but when Geoff Keighley asked Cooper Lawrence if she had actually played the game she laughed at him and said of course not as if she was above him.  So not only do anti video gaming &#8220;journalists&#8221; refuse to actually research their topics but they feel that they are above any who disagree.  Simply put, they have an agenda.  Much like Fox News itself!</p>
<p>As far as getting politicians to view us as a viable demographic&#8230;  I&#8217;d rather they didn&#8217;t view us at all and call it a win.</p>
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		<title>By: vlion</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2414</link>
		<author>vlion</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 16:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2414</guid>
					<description>Joe Lieberman is still at it, I see. I remember him from back in the '00 election cycle; he was just as virulently anti-game then. He's not a bad senator in many ways, but this issue...yeah....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Lieberman is still at it, I see. I remember him from back in the &#8216;00 election cycle; he was just as virulently anti-game then. He&#8217;s not a bad senator in many ways, but this issue&#8230;yeah&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2415</link>
		<author>Gloria</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 16:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2415</guid>
					<description>Yeah, I've known I wasn't going to vote for Clinton because of the whole Jack Thompson debacle. Everyone is so quick to forget that she can be incredibly loony when it comes to getting what she wants and feels is most appropriate in her eyes for society(hence why she refuses to drop out of the race, wasting the democratic party's time which would be better served lobbying against McCain since he's a very solid republican nominee). It bugs me that most feminists are all, "Vote for Clinton or you're not a true feminist." when the very idea of feminism is supporting every woman in their choices in life. But some people just want to feel superior to others. People, politicians in general, tend to forget that there are different facets to society. Not everyone is a white collar businesswoman or man, everyone cares about different issues. They lambaste Obama for his supposedly juvenile rallies, when in truth he's getting the younger vote more involved, which is something politicians have been complaining about for YEARS. I'm a little bit biased, I know, but mainly because I got tired of hearing about how I wasn't a true woman since I didn't support Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve known I wasn&#8217;t going to vote for Clinton because of the whole Jack Thompson debacle. Everyone is so quick to forget that she can be incredibly loony when it comes to getting what she wants and feels is most appropriate in her eyes for society(hence why she refuses to drop out of the race, wasting the democratic party&#8217;s time which would be better served lobbying against McCain since he&#8217;s a very solid republican nominee). It bugs me that most feminists are all, &#8220;Vote for Clinton or you&#8217;re not a true feminist.&#8221; when the very idea of feminism is supporting every woman in their choices in life. But some people just want to feel superior to others. People, politicians in general, tend to forget that there are different facets to society. Not everyone is a white collar businesswoman or man, everyone cares about different issues. They lambaste Obama for his supposedly juvenile rallies, when in truth he&#8217;s getting the younger vote more involved, which is something politicians have been complaining about for YEARS. I&#8217;m a little bit biased, I know, but mainly because I got tired of hearing about how I wasn&#8217;t a true woman since I didn&#8217;t support Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2418</link>
		<author>Kevin</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 01:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2418</guid>
					<description>I'm so happy how Obama commented on the GTA IV controversy. Paraphrasing, he said that it isnt really the games fault that kids are playing it underage, but the parents fault for not being more aware of the what they buy their kids. Thank you Obama, finally a politician gets it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so happy how Obama commented on the GTA IV controversy. Paraphrasing, he said that it isnt really the games fault that kids are playing it underage, but the parents fault for not being more aware of the what they buy their kids. Thank you Obama, finally a politician gets it.</p>
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		<title>By: Monique</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2420</link>
		<author>Monique</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 02:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2420</guid>
					<description>I was really pleased with Obama for that. He might not be a gamer. He might not even love games. But he gets they're FOR adults (or mature teenagers) and it's VERY unfair to review them in a 12 year old lens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really pleased with Obama for that. He might not be a gamer. He might not even love games. But he gets they&#8217;re FOR adults (or mature teenagers) and it&#8217;s VERY unfair to review them in a 12 year old lens.</p>
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		<title>By: andrei.dumitrescu</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2427</link>
		<author>andrei.dumitrescu</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 09:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2427</guid>
					<description>I think the main reason for which the media puts out blatantly false information regarding games is that it helps sell news and keeps poeple glued to the screen. As soon as they realize that clean, informative coverage can achieve the same ratings, there's a chance that it will all change...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the main reason for which the media puts out blatantly false information regarding games is that it helps sell news and keeps poeple glued to the screen. As soon as they realize that clean, informative coverage can achieve the same ratings, there&#8217;s a chance that it will all change&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2429</link>
		<author>Dale</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2429</guid>
					<description>The politicians will jump on ANY bangwagon that gets them into office. I am a game and I DO vote.
 However, I am a gun owner (gun rights), a vehicle driver (gas prices), and a divorced father (non-custodial parents rights), and a lastly a video game player (censorship of gaming Media)

Out of those four issues, how many politicians have a stance on on all of those issues? None. Because they jump on the bandwagons of the issues the media decides to sensationalize. Which one do i care about most? Take a guess. Video game censorship is the last issue i worry about when voting.

I happen to remember the 80's-90's "crusade" against Metal, Rap and other various forms of Music by the government's lapdog PMRC. What happened after the media shut up? Nothing except for the fact a label got put on music. The government prattles on about stuff like this instead of what matters to keep us distracted. That's the truth of the matter. Don't believe me? Google it, get a history book , whatever. 

The fact is Video games wont be censored the same as music wasn't. I think there are more important issues to worry about that the politicians support or oppose than Video games.
(Disclaimer: Yes I am an AVID gamer. I play constantly when my free time allows)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politicians will jump on ANY bangwagon that gets them into office. I am a game and I DO vote.<br />
 However, I am a gun owner (gun rights), a vehicle driver (gas prices), and a divorced father (non-custodial parents rights), and a lastly a video game player (censorship of gaming Media)</p>
<p>Out of those four issues, how many politicians have a stance on on all of those issues? None. Because they jump on the bandwagons of the issues the media decides to sensationalize. Which one do i care about most? Take a guess. Video game censorship is the last issue i worry about when voting.</p>
<p>I happen to remember the 80&#8217;s-90&#8217;s &#8220;crusade&#8221; against Metal, Rap and other various forms of Music by the government&#8217;s lapdog PMRC. What happened after the media shut up? Nothing except for the fact a label got put on music. The government prattles on about stuff like this instead of what matters to keep us distracted. That&#8217;s the truth of the matter. Don&#8217;t believe me? Google it, get a history book , whatever. </p>
<p>The fact is Video games wont be censored the same as music wasn&#8217;t. I think there are more important issues to worry about that the politicians support or oppose than Video games.<br />
(Disclaimer: Yes I am an AVID gamer. I play constantly when my free time allows)</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2431</link>
		<author>Gloria</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2431</guid>
					<description>Interesting how you being a gun owner comes first.</description>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2432</link>
		<author>Gloria</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2432</guid>
					<description>Scuzee. That should read, "How you list being a gun owner first". Early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scuzee. That should read, &#8220;How you list being a gun owner first&#8221;. Early.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzie</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2436</link>
		<author>Suzie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2436</guid>
					<description>Dale - whilst I agree that there are lots of more important issues, voting isn't the only way you can take political action. Sure, vote for the candidate that first and foremost will help develop your relationship with your family etc, but don't forget that as a, say, Republican voter you can still influence the Republican parties actions by writing to your senator (I think it's senator, I'm English so my knowledge of US politics is a little hazy), challenging the news media, and correcting people preconceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale - whilst I agree that there are lots of more important issues, voting isn&#8217;t the only way you can take political action. Sure, vote for the candidate that first and foremost will help develop your relationship with your family etc, but don&#8217;t forget that as a, say, Republican voter you can still influence the Republican parties actions by writing to your senator (I think it&#8217;s senator, I&#8217;m English so my knowledge of US politics is a little hazy), challenging the news media, and correcting people preconceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Miako</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2437</link>
		<author>Miako</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2437</guid>
					<description>Funny how on the political websites mentioning Video Games is about the only thing that can get the Hillary supporters to back off!</description>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2440</link>
		<author>Dale</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2440</guid>
					<description>Gloria;
Interestingly enough that's not my first interest in political issues, it just happened to be the first thing that popped into my head when it come to MEDIA propaganda and sensationalizing. In which you just proved a MAJOR poiunt with since thats all you had to comment about.

Miako;
I am not now nor have ever been a Republican. Just because i am a gun owner does not throw me in with that party automatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gloria;<br />
Interestingly enough that&#8217;s not my first interest in political issues, it just happened to be the first thing that popped into my head when it come to MEDIA propaganda and sensationalizing. In which you just proved a MAJOR poiunt with since thats all you had to comment about.</p>
<p>Miako;<br />
I am not now nor have ever been a Republican. Just because i am a gun owner does not throw me in with that party automatically.</p>
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		<title>By: Monique</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2441</link>
		<author>Monique</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2441</guid>
					<description>Let's not fight about politics. Srsly.

Anyway, my point was explicitly vote for who you want. Vote for the issues that matter. But honestly, don't profess utter ignorance to a candidates stance on games. If you like a candidate and they seem to be totally anti-video games, why not organize and try to change their view? Write them a letter or two? It's what interest groups do. Why isn't there a gaming interest group? There's film interest groups, there's sport interest groups... yet, surprisingly, the "immature" and "violent" video gaming sector doesn't have a single word in it.

And you can't really predict the future here. I'm not saying GTA4 will be banned. I never said that. I'm simply saying that video game taxes, or other annoying legislation, could be passed if we don't participate politically. It seems there's a misconception about gaming in the media, and instead of actually trying to fix it, most gamers are either ignoring it or want to give up excuses and vast generalizations about how it doesn't matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not fight about politics. Srsly.</p>
<p>Anyway, my point was explicitly vote for who you want. Vote for the issues that matter. But honestly, don&#8217;t profess utter ignorance to a candidates stance on games. If you like a candidate and they seem to be totally anti-video games, why not organize and try to change their view? Write them a letter or two? It&#8217;s what interest groups do. Why isn&#8217;t there a gaming interest group? There&#8217;s film interest groups, there&#8217;s sport interest groups&#8230; yet, surprisingly, the &#8220;immature&#8221; and &#8220;violent&#8221; video gaming sector doesn&#8217;t have a single word in it.</p>
<p>And you can&#8217;t really predict the future here. I&#8217;m not saying GTA4 will be banned. I never said that. I&#8217;m simply saying that video game taxes, or other annoying legislation, could be passed if we don&#8217;t participate politically. It seems there&#8217;s a misconception about gaming in the media, and instead of actually trying to fix it, most gamers are either ignoring it or want to give up excuses and vast generalizations about how it doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		<title>By: *vlad*</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2454</link>
		<author>*vlad*</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2454</guid>
					<description>At the same time, I don't see why we, as gamers, have to defend every game that comes out against those wanting to ban them, no matter the dubious content of said games. 
You can use these same 'freedom of speech' type arguments for any video nasty/snuff film, and yet I feel that somewhere you have to draw the line and say this or that product has gone too far.

I have not played GTA4, but I did play GTA3, and what I did not like it was the psychopathic (in the clinical sense) behavoiur of the main character, as well as the nihilistic world he inhabited. 
The only way to interact with most npc was to either rob them or kill them. How sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the same time, I don&#8217;t see why we, as gamers, have to defend every game that comes out against those wanting to ban them, no matter the dubious content of said games.<br />
You can use these same &#8216;freedom of speech&#8217; type arguments for any video nasty/snuff film, and yet I feel that somewhere you have to draw the line and say this or that product has gone too far.</p>
<p>I have not played GTA4, but I did play GTA3, and what I did not like it was the psychopathic (in the clinical sense) behavoiur of the main character, as well as the nihilistic world he inhabited.<br />
The only way to interact with most npc was to either rob them or kill them. How sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2455</link>
		<author>Jacob</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2455</guid>
					<description>So Monique, how exactly can we do some of these things you're talking about? A gaming interest group. You mentioned something to the effect of lifting a finger and letting them know that we ARE a viable demographic. How? The Fox News story mentioned in the first comment came to my mind as soon as I started reading this article. I'm a Republican, and I do love Fox News, but that story blew my mind with how narrow-minded and poorly researched it was. It was very clear that none of the people involved in the discussion knew what they were talking about. But how do gamers step in? That's what I'd like to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Monique, how exactly can we do some of these things you&#8217;re talking about? A gaming interest group. You mentioned something to the effect of lifting a finger and letting them know that we ARE a viable demographic. How? The Fox News story mentioned in the first comment came to my mind as soon as I started reading this article. I&#8217;m a Republican, and I do love Fox News, but that story blew my mind with how narrow-minded and poorly researched it was. It was very clear that none of the people involved in the discussion knew what they were talking about. But how do gamers step in? That&#8217;s what I&#8217;d like to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Monique</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2457</link>
		<author>Monique</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 00:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2457</guid>
					<description>Vlad--don't defend a game you don't like. I personally think GTA4 is a hilarious, skeptic take on our society. I don't think any of it will encourage sociopath, crazed behavior in our children. I also don't think they were right to lie about the role of drunk driving in-game.

Jacob--It starts with letters. Long letters and no pay. The thing is, the more you do it, the more 'press' you get. Look at Game Politics. They've always called people out on their bullshit. They haven't always been noted for it. Nowadays they are; when they call a bad newss tory out, other news networks at leas tlook at it. The Today Show has interviewed them, the New York Times has as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vlad&#8211;don&#8217;t defend a game you don&#8217;t like. I personally think GTA4 is a hilarious, skeptic take on our society. I don&#8217;t think any of it will encourage sociopath, crazed behavior in our children. I also don&#8217;t think they were right to lie about the role of drunk driving in-game.</p>
<p>Jacob&#8211;It starts with letters. Long letters and no pay. The thing is, the more you do it, the more &#8216;press&#8217; you get. Look at Game Politics. They&#8217;ve always called people out on their bullshit. They haven&#8217;t always been noted for it. Nowadays they are; when they call a bad newss tory out, other news networks at leas tlook at it. The Today Show has interviewed them, the New York Times has as well.</p>
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		<title>By: RiotMonster</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2505</link>
		<author>RiotMonster</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2505</guid>
					<description>I wish I could get more involved.. I'd write long letters daily if I had to. I mean, the more they push gamers and what not, the more it makes me want to make a change.

How about we stop constantly complaining about poor media coverage of games.. or anti-gaming politicians and help make a change? We all have good points and views that shouldn't go unnoticed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could get more involved.. I&#8217;d write long letters daily if I had to. I mean, the more they push gamers and what not, the more it makes me want to make a change.</p>
<p>How about we stop constantly complaining about poor media coverage of games.. or anti-gaming politicians and help make a change? We all have good points and views that shouldn&#8217;t go unnoticed.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Primed</title>
		<link>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2706</link>
		<author>Daniel Primed</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://girlsdontgame.com/2008/05/10/rockstar-the-vote/#comment-2706</guid>
					<description>I think that we should reverse this onto other meiums to make a comparison. Going by the logic of these groups and organisations, if we look at movies or music in the same light then surely they are much worse. If you watch any music video show on TV you will see that many of the songs encorage sex and in a few cases are highly suggestive of things like BDSM etc. 

Even worse, go to a movie store. The quantity of horror and gore porn movies may surprise you. If GTA is so terrible for having some sex scenes in it then where do you start on movies like Saw, WAZ, Hostel which all feature torture and gore? Surely if GTA is suggesting such things then these movies and music are too right. How is GTA any less guilty?

Fact is, these media all have ratings and people should stick to them and not bark wrongly about the otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we should reverse this onto other meiums to make a comparison. Going by the logic of these groups and organisations, if we look at movies or music in the same light then surely they are much worse. If you watch any music video show on TV you will see that many of the songs encorage sex and in a few cases are highly suggestive of things like BDSM etc. </p>
<p>Even worse, go to a movie store. The quantity of horror and gore porn movies may surprise you. If GTA is so terrible for having some sex scenes in it then where do you start on movies like Saw, WAZ, Hostel which all feature torture and gore? Surely if GTA is suggesting such things then these movies and music are too right. How is GTA any less guilty?</p>
<p>Fact is, these media all have ratings and people should stick to them and not bark wrongly about the otherwise.</p>
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